17 September 2012

Welcome to Our New Home!

If you are able to read this post, congratulations, you've made it!

Below is the post from Multiply regarding the change.

As you well know by now, Multiply will close all personal blogs and groups on December 1. They have chosen Blogger as the transfer platform for groups and personal blogs. As such, we will be making the transition to the new platform gradually. I want to let you know about the steps to take and what you need to do to make this transition as smooth as possible.

The new site has already been created and all posts have been transferred. Since Blogger is not a storage platform, all documents and attachments are being transferred to a new storage server. However, links to documents and attachments in posts will need to be updated with new addresses. This will happen in the next few months, and will occur in the background, with very little involvement from the users -- but a lot of involvement from me!!!, :-).

Be aware that Multiply does not have a mechanism to send a mass e-mail communication to the members of this group to warn about changes in this site. Furthermore, though I have a list of users for the site, I don't have any email addresses, so the only ways to communicate to you are by posting here or in the new site, or by sending a personal message to everyone individually.
What does this mean to you?

1. Blogger is a Google platform, so if you don't have a Google account, you need to get one if you want access to the new site. It's a free account. The easiest way to do that is to click here. Once you get that account, click here to send me a personal note telling me your Multiply ID and your Google account name so that I can invite you to the new blog. (Since you're reading this message in the new Blogger site, you can also contact me by clicking here.)

2. Once you get the email invitation to the new site, you will have the option of creating a Blogger profile (separate from your Google ID, which will be kept private). I recommend that you do this, so that you can remain as anonymous as possible if you so desire. Also, if you have an account with an OpenID service (such as WordPress, LiveJournal, TypePad, AIM), you can respond to posts using those IDs, in addition to your Blogger ID. If you also have a Google Plus (Google+) account, you can link your post to your Google+ ID. For the time being, do not do this, as I'm not aware how well it works. My recommendation is to go simple and just use your Blooger profile. Changes can be made later.

3. One you sign in, you will see a Blogger home page, called the Dashboard. On the top of the page, you will see the Blogs you have access to. The new Gregg Shorthand blog will be there. To access the blog, click on View Blog. You will see the new blog and can start posting and replying to posts.

4. Starting October 1, posting in the Multiply site will cease. We will continue to have access to the Multiply site until December 1, when everything is deleted and shutdown. In the meantime, if you have posted attachments here, make sure that you have a copy of everything, so that we don't loose the links.

Now, let me tell you about the good things in the Blogger site:

1. The navigation in the new site is much easier than in Multiply. First, their search engine for posts is fantastic (which is expected, because it's Google). You can type anything in the search box, and all posts that have those words will come up.

2. There is an archive facility, so all posts are classified by date in hierarchical fashion: you have a navigation tool on the left of the page that you can browse old posts easily.

3. The interface is much cleaner. I have limited the number of posts in the main page so that people do not get lost in the blog. You can always search a particular post by going to the search box, or by using the navigation tool already mentioned.

4. Adding a new post is much easier: just click on "New Post" on the top of the page, and type what you want and you're done.

5. You can also select posts by tags using a pull-down menu (in Blogger, tags are called "Labels"). You can add "labels" to new posts like you used to do tags in Multiply.

6. Blogs have a mobile interface. I have not tested it, but it's nice that they have that option. I have tested the regular interface in my tablet and it looks great. I would like to hear how it looks in other platforms, especially the Mac.

Let me tell you some of the downsides (they are mostly from my end):

1. Blogger does not accept attachments, so if you want to attach something to a post, you need to host it and post the link. The question is where to host? My suggestion is that since you will have a Google account, use your Google drive as your storage. With your Google drive, you will have 5 Gb of free space. You can limit who will have access to your documents there, and manage access relatively easily. You can use other storage platforms: it's up to you what you want to use.

2. In the transfer of new posts, old posts will have my name as the person who posted it (instead of the original author), because I was the person who did the transfer to the new blog. This means that the only person able to make changes to old posts is me, so if you want something change, like a link or something, you need to let me know.

3. Another consequence of transfer is that responses from previous persons cannot be edited nor linked to the new user. You are able to see your responses to posts, but neither you nor I are able to edit those responses (like I said, I can edit the original posts, but not the responses). This is a minor thing, because you can always add responses with your new ID.

To wrap up, I will encourage you to try the new site and post there. To remind you, you will not be able to post in Multiply starting October 1. I will create a new post in Blogger with this information as well.

Happy moving!

23 comments:

  1. I think one of the things I’m going to miss is the ability to receive automatic notification of all new comments on all entries. But at least you can subscribe to comments on entries one by one after they’ve been posted and you visit it for the first time.

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    1. That is a downside. The funny thing is that I can see all comments, so I know who has commented and when! I'm not sure why they haven't added this feature.

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    2. Problem solved! There is now a Recent Comments section for that purpose. It's on the left rail, below the Past Posts section. If you think that it should be somewhere else, let me know!

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    3. I spoke too soon. I don't see it working. I need to find out why.

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    4. Now I can finally say that the problem is solved. You can see the last 10 comments on the left bar when you log on to the site.

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  2. Hi all,

    WOW! I really like the new site. It looks very nice and sleek. I think that once we get the hang of the new platform things will become easier than it was with Multiply.

    One question though: When I try downloading a file, it says that I do not have permission to access the file. Is this just because they are old posts or will this always be the case (having to request permission), even with new posts?

    Thanks again to everyone for creating such a wonderful, cosy, community.

    Marcel

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    1. Thanks for reminding me to turn on the access! You should be able to see them now. Let me know how it goes.

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  3. Ditto AnonymousMuggle. (I don't even need to say anything else.) I really like this website. In fact, I prefer this site over the Multiply site.

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  4. Hi! Thanks for the transfer of everything (& me!)
    One question, why is this site private?

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    1. I'm keeping the site private during the transition so that the kinks about the new platform can be worked out. I already found out what things work in private vs. public mode. Access to the documents is another issue that I need to work out, though solutions for this will be in place. In short, the site is functional, but not optimal yet.

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  5. I know that moving is major, but what about yahoo groups? For one thing, they are still there (unlike msn) it seems that they would have the kind of tools this group needs.

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    1. The main issue with us is migration of old posts and support for the actual migration process.

      We have an archive of over 1500 actual posts, not counting responses which would easily make that figure close to 8000 total posts. Multiply provided tools to make the migration and import of posts to this platform with relative ease. I have examined both Yahoo Groups and even Google Groups, but the tools for customizing the website are severely lacking. There are advantages to using Blogger from an administrator perspective, and I have talked about those in this post. Another advantage of using Blogger is the blog export facility: if in the future I need to move the blog for any reason, it is a simple procedure to follow. Lastly, Blogger's customer support so far has been outstanding.

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    2. Correction to 6.a:

      Number of posts: a little over 1800
      Number of comments (responses): close to 12,000

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  6. Right. Of course, the priority at this point is to preserve the group. And I'm sure that even with all of Blogger's perks and conveniences, you're still earning every bit of your salary--such as it is. I'm glad the group is still going and there are some people willing to put the energy into maintaining it. (This leads me to the thought that maybe you should consider putting up a Donate button, to help with supplies/expenses or whatever.)

    I'm actually not all that familiar with blog sites nor their potential. I read them once in awhile, but that's about it. In fact, even though I was keeping an eye out for your reply the other day, I didn't see it until today. I guess I'll have to figure out the mechanics here and the most efficient way to follow threads.

    $$Thanks for everything$$

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  7. So now I've figured out how to display a user name and to display new comments. My next question: Is the Admin the only one who can start new topics? It's looking to me like the only way I can post is by commenting on a pre-existing thread.

    Priscilla

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  8. Okay. I don't know if it was there all along or if it just mysteriously appeared, but I now see that I have a post button on my blogger home page. Yay!

    So now comes the question: When is it better to start a new thread rather than commenting on an old (msn/multiply) post?

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    1. You can go either way. If there is a post already, why not continue that one? It will show up in the updates to the site, and if you follow the blog by RSS or e-mail, it will appear as well. I usually start a new thread instead of continuing one if the discussion topic deviated from the original one, because people will search by title more likely and won't be able to find the information that you are trying to communicate. Just my 2 cents.

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    2. Sounds like a reasonable guideline.

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  9. What a trip! I started with Gregg Series 90 then Teeline back to Series 90 back to Teeline and now I came to my senses and am studying Gregg Anniversary. Should have done so way back. Love it. And thanks, Carlos, for all you do for our enjoyment.

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    1. Great! Is this the first time you post? If so, welcome! I believe you requested access to the documents.

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  10. For some reason I can't figure out how to add a new topic.

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